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                  <text>Final Report: Hercules Powder company_
oral History Project (Phase 1)
Introduction

In February, 1992 I contracted with the:Hercules Historic
Area Restoration and Preservation Commi~tee (HARP) to
conduct primary and secondary research ~eading to four oral
history interviews with former employees (and/or family
members of employees) of the Hercules Powder Company. At an
initial meeting with HARP and City of Hercules staff two
concerns were articulated: 1) that the history booklet
Remembering Days Past: Hercules. 1879-1987 left some gaps to
be filled; and 2) that the Chinese contribution to Hercules'
early development should be reconsidered and reiterated.
Chinese at Hercules.
It was a hope that the local Chinese
Association of Hercules might be an active participant in
the project. As discussed in oue meeting of January 1992,
the problem in researching Chinese history, particularly
through oral history, is the time lag---most Chinese
employees "left" (were forced out) of Hercules c. 1913 and
as undoubtedly most or all of them were bachelors (as at
Giant Powder Co.) it is difficult if not impossible to trace
descendents. Thus the overall focus of this project has
been the industrial and social history of the company and
company town. All four interviewees were questioned,
however, about Chinese workers; Mr. Thatcher was the only
one with anecdotal information (see this ms.)
I am also
attaching a brief report on the Chinese at Point Pinole as
comparative data from my previous work for the East Bay
Regional Park District.
Research design. Other than Chinese involvement HARP did
not specify any research questions. In contacting and
interviewing the four individuals I thus used a research
design based on my previous two-year project documenting the
history of the Giant/Atlas Powder Company at Point Pinole.
Archival research was sparse due to the overaliproject
budget: I read through Remembering Days Past ... ,·consulted
my own notes from Point Pinole, and spent one afternoon in
the Bancroft Library. Of particular interest is the
publication Hercules Products (c. 1918) and of course Arthur
Pine Van Gelder's History of the Explosives Industry in
America. Attached are xerox pages of particular interest
from both publications. I do recommend that HARP duplicate
the entirety of Hercules Products.
(Perhaps someone in and
around Hercules has a copy which they will donate?). I
tried to contact Kate Campbell at The West County Times.

�Final report, page 2

The Times apparently has an extensive file on Hercules in
their "morgue" but they will not allow private access to
their library files.
oral history interviews. I ultimately chose four
interviewees from a list of former company employees which
was supplied by HARP. Jackie Rochefort ahd I both agreed
that at least one of the four subjects should be a woman, to
reflect that perspective. Thankfully one local woman who
worked in the Hercules office from 1929-1973 (!) agreed to
speak with me. The other interviewees included a mix of
rank-and-file and management (see attached profile list).
~
As in all professional oral history interviewing an "elite"
non-standardized approach was used: thus although I
developed a five page interview outline I attempted to
follow, to the extent reasonable, the lead of the in¢tividual
being interviewed. Two interviews were transcribed
completely (verbatim) and include both face sheets and
indexing; for the other two tape indexes and face sheets
only were prepared.

.,.,.---·

It would be premature, based on four interviews, to draw any
hard and fast conclusions. However several points can be
made. Layout of plant: There is currently no overall
description of the layout and thus the changing functions
(over time) of the various lines and facilities at Hercules.
This information very well may be "in the heads" of many
people but the company should be mapped and the processes
for making dynamite, black powder, nitric acid described in
relation to the site. At Point Pinole, as an example, we
had access to several company maps and thus interviewees
could help describe the steps in making dynamite in
relationship to a visual aid. Railroads: As at Giant the
Hercules Powder Company had an extensive in-plant rail
service, narrow gauge, which used both electric and gas
"jitneys." According to Wilbur Thatcher (and as at Giant)
some of the track was sold to Disneyland upon the plant's
closure. Safety: It would seem indeed that Hercules earned
its reputation for its casual approach to safefy .-(a
reputation gleaned from company workers at Giant/Atlas
Powder Company). Twelve men died in the 1953 explosion of
the dope dryer, about eight more than worked in the
facility. The others died valiantly trying to fight the
fire, something they were expected to do and yet for which
they had never been trained. It would appear that this
accident "shook up" management as a new superintendent was
soon after assigned to Hercules who developed a
comprehensive safety plan including a professionally-trained
fire departmel}t.

�Final report, page 3

Although the hospital is mentioned in the history
booklet (and is cited in Van Gelder, as attached) it was
apparently only a glamorized first aid station and was not
in service by 1929. Fencing: The perimeter fence was
allowed to fall apart between Wars. Thus I believe in
contrast to Point Pinole there was no fence or restricted
access other than during the twowars (and following World
War II?).· Black powder line: Two of the men interviewed
(Wilbur Thatcher and Manuel Pavon) worked for several years
out at the black powder line in Refugio Valley. The black
powder was connected to the main plant by the narrow gauge
railroad. curiously both the sulphur grinder and the coal
rumbler were at the main plant site. As flash fires in the~
pulverizer are a particular problem it is noteworthy that
Hercules did not isolate these buildings out at the other
site. Hercules apparently continued to make both black
powder and sporting powders up through the early 60's:
something of an anachronism.
Hospital:

Recommendations
~--------

The following recommendations are made for further work:
1) - The written questionnaire, as prepared, should be
disseminated by mail and at local events, to establish a
data base for future oral history work.

The questionnaire is patterned after one which I developed
for Point Pinole Regional Shoreline. The questionnaire does
not of course take the place of formal taped interviews. It
is merely a mechanism to better understand the diversity of
jobs, experiences, etc. of former company employees and
their families.
2)

The Hercules site needs to be thoroughly mapped.

An aerial map of the site needs to be located ang the
various (and changing) functions of the lines and facilities
drawn in and described. Hercules is obviously a complex
place, both historically and archaeologically, due to its
diversification over the years. Some buildings still stand.
Former employees should be solicited for "walk-throughs" on
site to record this information while it is still available.

�Final report, page 4
3) HARP and/or the city of Hercules should establish an
archives or central place to collect, maintain and index
photographs and documents which pertain to Hercules history.
Apparently there is a room which is filled with old papers
(and perhaps some maps?) in the former Office building.
Former company employees (e.g. Edwin Grayr also own
materials which should be duplicated and preserved.
Archiving is a big task and a long-term commitment.
Corporate or private funding might be available for this
work.
4)

The oral history project should continue.

There are at least twenty-five surviving members of the "25
Year Club" in the area. There are also countless family
members who might be available for interviews. There is no
need to interview everyone: the written questionnaire helps
to establish priorities. A project encompassing ten
additional transcribed interviews would be a great
contribution. Also, where are the notes or tapes made by
the authors of Remembering the Past ... ?
S) HARP or the City of Hercules should design and implement
one or more "wayside" exhibits to interpret the industrial
history of the town.
These exhibits could be placed in the new park adjacent to
the historic districr., in front of the office building and
at the restored c~ubhouse.

Karana Hattersley-Drayton
North Bay Folklife services
231 Palmer Street
Petaluma, CA 94952
(707) 763-5447

consultant for HARP

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